從愛心出發

問：您認為靈修有助於療癒這個世界嗎？如何療癒？

答：當然！我們在無形中已經幫助很多了。你們看，現在有更多和平的消息，人們對待動物更有愛心。甚至在因應氣候變遷方面，他們也加速腳步，只是做得不如我們期望的那麼多，因為並不是全世界的人都有修行，只有我們團體和一些其他團體而已。

靈修的幫助非常大！我告訴你們一個祕密：要不是有這麼多人修行，這個世界早就消失了！它只是不如我們期望的那樣，因為這個世界還受到魔王的影響。由於人們內在還帶著它的影響，他們不想醒過來，每天都太過擔心物質的層面，而忽略靈性的層面。所以，有總比沒有好。

問：我在想，我們對地球的所作所為引發氣候變遷並造成許多影響，這些情況有可能復原嗎？如果我們度過難關存活下來，能否扭轉我們對地球造成的傷害？

答：可以到某個程度。如果政府和世人趕快行動，也許我們就可以讓它復原，是的。不會那麼快完全恢復，像世界最初的狀態，但如果我們趕快行動，就能保護我們自己，世界的情況也不會更加惡化。假如我們很快行動，地球會受到更多保護，也許某些損害就可以修復。

我們現在就是盡力在做，真的是盡全力在做。為了孩子們著想，希望他們能加快腳步。我們大家都已步入中年或老年，我們不在乎，但我們還是可以做些事。

就拿亞馬遜雨林來說，它已經存在很久了，有好幾億年了；它是地球的肺。所以就算人們種新的樹下去，那是不一樣的，不過還是會有幫助。樹木越大、樹齡越老，釋出氧氣和中和二氧化碳的功效就越好。我不知道政府是否有辦法造出某種東西，像大自然或冰層那樣，以那麼有效的方式大規模地將熱能反射回太空。

問：請問師父，為什麼這一切都在我們這個世代發生？

答：因為業障累積的緣故。業障累積到達巔峰需要一段時間，就像羅馬不是一天造成的。即使我們擁有古代明師所有的教理，但是人們沒有聽從，所以才會發生這種事。這種事會不時地發生，這並不是第一次。

你們記得亞特蘭提斯那類的事，他們也是發生類似的情況；還有諾亞的時代，因此他才必須造一艘船等等。所以這已經不是第一次了。最近他們甚至在某地的湖底新發現一座城市，那也是發生同樣的事。

這個世界偶爾會發生那樣的事，因為人們沒有聽從明師所有的教理，所以明師會一次又一次地下來這個世界。不同的明師來這裡告訴人們：「要吃素、要有道德、要做好事、要有愛心。」但沒人要聽，沒有很多人聽，他們甚至還迫害聽從明師的人或迫害明師。因此，當業障累積到一定程度或具有足夠的毀滅力量時，難免會有這種事發生。

但我們有防護罩、有力量，就是這樣。無論如何，每個人都難免一死，問題是，死後會去哪裡？如果你們聽從道德、良善、仁慈、愛心的教理，就會受到明師防護罩的保護，然後安然到高等的天堂。大多數人不知道事情的後果，因為他們被一些所謂的宗教領袖誤導，不過他們也會得到在世明師力量的協助，並且被提昇到某種天堂。

因此真正的壞人才會下地獄，就是這樣。但這不是會不會死的問題，而是他們能不能獲得解脫。世人在靈性上已經得到幫助，他們的靈魂會獲得解脫，因為這不全是他們的錯。他們吃肉，不全是他們的錯；他們不了解聖經或佛陀的教理，也不是他們的錯，而是因為沒有人正確解釋給他們聽。

所以印心的人一定會受到保護，如果他們繼續修行，當然沒問題；假如他們中斷修行，那就要承受後果。至於其他人如果沒有做錯什麼事，只是無明地跟隨大眾行事，也會得到幫助；他們的靈魂會得到幫助。

問：幾乎所有人都同意氣候正在轉變，但有些人仍不相信這是人類造成的。

答：大多數是人類造成的，現在大家都知道了。

問：有些人還是說，他們不確定這是不是人類造成的。

答：不然還會有誰？是誰開車排放二氧化碳的？你們認為是外星人開車、外星人吃肉的嗎？

問：師父，另一個問題是，如果您有訊息要傳達給世人，那會是什麼？

答：那就是我好愛他們，因為我知道不管他們做了什麼，並非他們的錯。他們只是被無明的面紗遮蔽了，使他們忘卻了真理。他們也被整個環境、被不懂明師教理的人誤導了。所以我只能告訴他們，我好愛他們，我對他們的遺憾勝過責備。

問：我拿印有美國太空總署發佈的氣候訊息的廣告給一位朋友看，他似乎很認同。於是我說：「那麼你要開始吃素嗎？」他說：「或許再過幾年吧！」對於這種人，該如何進一步說服他們？如何讓他們採取行動？

答：我不說服任何人；我不知道怎麼做。這些年來，我做了這麼多，也沒有很多人吃素。是有幫助一些人，但沒有我希望的那麼多。即使我到各地去，挨家挨戶把傳單貼在每一戶門口，我也不知道能勸服多少人，因為人類的習慣很難改變，而且還有反抗的心理。有時你叫他們做什麼，他們偏偏不做，故意跟你唱反調，這就是人類的「反抗心理」。

人類自古以來就是這樣。很難！不只是吃素，還有很多事也一樣。我走到哪裡，人們都很喜歡我，可是當我建議他們吃素時，他們就猶豫了。因為說實在的，人們也不知道該怎麼吃素。素食並不是很普遍，在世界各地並非主流飲食，所以吃葷的人不知道怎麼煮素食。對中國人和悠樂（越南）人來說比較容易，因為我們會用豆腐等食材烹調美味的素餐，或是炒什錦菜；但是吃葷的人只知道把整塊牛排放進烤箱裡。

不容易！即使他們有心吃素，也不知道怎麼煮。所以我們才要在電視上教他們煮素菜，儘管如此，人們還是難以改變。以前我在德國時，每個禮拜都邀請鄰居來吃素，但也沒有因此使他們成為素食者。他們很喜歡我煮的菜，我還給他們食譜等等，但也沒有使他們變成素食者。

問：所以一個人會選擇成為素食者，是因為命中注定，要不然他就會再去吃葷，是嗎？

答：是因為他意志堅強，知道是好的事，就要求自己做到，只有這種人才會改變。軟弱的人即使知道是好事，也做不到！上帝給人自由意志改過遷善，反之亦然，由他們自己選擇。問題就在這裡，人類有自由意志和我執作祟。

如果我們能保有這個星球就好，如果不能也沒辦法。我真的希望我們能保有它，繼續安住其中，小孩可以在更好的環境下長大。但你們知道，決定權不完全在於我們團體，甚至也不在於上天，而是看人類決定要什麼，以及轉向哪裡，全憑他們怎麼改變。領導人應該善用他們的權力，加速行動。所以我們只能祈求最好的結果，就這樣，好嗎？如果全球有一半人口成為素食者，那已經是天大的好消息了。

氣候變遷不只是天氣變熱而已，也意謂著全球各地氣候的轉變，熱的地方變冷，冷的地方變熱，並使得災難頻仍。然後整個氣候變得很混亂，帶給人們很多痛苦。許多國家、城市會被海水淹沒等等，還會有很多暴風雨、颱風出現，在地球真正毀滅之前，會有很多災難發生。並不是說：「好，現在要結束了」，然後就完了！不是那樣。

整個情況會讓人痛苦好一陣子，會有很多人受苦，他們甚至不明白為何會如此。所以我們儘可能和人們聯繫，像是政治人物和報社，寫信或寄傳單給他們，能做什麼就去做，盡力拯救世界。我們每個人都有責任，只要我們能力所及，就儘量去做。

問：根據美國太空總署氣候報告的資料顯示，北極冰層將在2012年融化殆盡，這和馬雅曆法的終結日不謀而合。這是巧合或是有別的原因？

答：也許不是巧合，有些人確實看得見，有些人確實能預見未來，但人們還是執迷不改！重點是，他們想改變嗎？他們夠堅強去改變嗎？當然，我到哪裡都努力去試，但並不是那麼容易。我們的節目、傳單和演講改變了很多人，幾百萬人！但還是不夠。

問：請問師父，您是否有什麼訊息想要傳達給世界的領袖們？

答：我想告訴他們，運用他們強大的力量來改變世人的飲食習慣，立刻採用新科技和永續能源，並以身作則帶頭吃素。運用他們強大的力量改變人們的飲食，並以身作則，為地球建立素食的新飲食觀。

他們必須先吃素，然後才能真正發揮他們自己的力量。就像禁菸一樣，他們也可以列舉吃肉對人類與地球的所有害處，然後加以禁止。他們可以那樣做，就像禁菸一樣。實施禁止吃肉的措施，就像禁菸、禁毒一樣，肉也是一種有害的毒藥。

問：另外，宇宙中其他文明也有同樣的問題嗎？

答：他們也有。凡是有人住的星球，都會發生這種事。一旦科技發展到某個程度，就會產生副作用。假如人們靈性方面不穩定或沒進步，那麼科技發展就會凌駕於靈性之上，而失去平衡，然後他們就會破壞自己的星球。

問：敬愛的師父，我們想利用這個機會向您表達謝意，感謝您慈允召開這場關於環境的研討會，以及您所做的一切和給我們的鼓勵。我們非常愛您，謝謝您！

答：我也愛你們！（大眾鼓掌）上天愛你們，所有動物愛你們，我也愛你們！

大眾：我們愛您！（大眾鼓掌）

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A Discussion with Supreme Master Ching Hai 
on Global Climate Change

Spiritual Practice Does Benefit the Earth

Q: Do You think that spiritual practice could help heal the world, and how?

M: Of course. We already help a lot, invisibly. You see a lot more peace news now and a lot more caring for animals now. Even climate change; they’re speeding it up. It’s just not as much as we want because not the whole world is practicing, just a group of us and some other groups.

It’s helping a lot, because I’ll tell you a secret: If there hadn’t been a lot of practitioners, then the world would have been kaput (disappeared) long ago already. It’s just not the way we want because this world is still under the influence of Maya somehow. That’s because the people carry it within themselves. They don’t want to wake up. They just worry too much every day about material existence and not the spiritual one. So, it’s still better than nothing.

Is Global Warming Reversible?

Q: I was just wondering, are the effects of what we have done to the planet reversible in regards to climate change? If we were to survive through this period, can we reverse the damage that we have done to the Earth?

M: To some extent. If the government and the people in the world act fast, maybe we can reverse it somehow, yes. Not so quickly to 100%, like the primordial state of the world before, but we can protect ourselves if we act quickly; then the world will not get worse. The Earth will be more protected if somehow we act very fast; then maybe some damage will be recovered.

We are just doing our best; we are really doing our best. Let’s hope they will do it faster, for the children’s sake; all of us who are already middle-aged and old, we don’t care. But we can also do something.

For instance, the Amazon rainforest, because it has been there for a long time - thousands or millions of years - it’s the lungs of the world. So even if you plant new trees, it’s not the same; but it helps somehow. The bigger the tree and the older the tree, the more effective it is for producing oxygen and neutralizing carbon dioxide. I don’t know if the governments are trained to build something to reflect and send the heat back into space in such a large area and in such a hugely effective way, like the way nature has made or like the ice does.

The Reason Climate Change Is Now

Q: Master, I wanted to ask You why all of these things are happening to us, in our generation?

M: Because karma accumulates; it takes time to accumulate until it peaks, like Rome was not built in one day. Even with all the teachings of the Masters from ancient times, people don’t listen, and that’s why it happens. It happens now and again; this is not the first time.

You remember Atlantis and so on; they were also happening similarly, and Noah’s time; that’s why he had to build a boat and so on and so forth. So it’s not the first time. And recently they even found a new city under a lake somewhere. This is just a thing that happens.

And now and again the world happens to go under like that because people don’t listen to all the teachings of the Masters. So, the Master comes down again, again and again. Different Masters come down and tell people, “Please be vegetarian, be moral, be good, be compassionate.” But no one listens, or not many people listen; and they even persecute the ones who listen, or the Master. Therefore, it just has to happen now and again, when it accumulates enough karma or enough destructive power.

But we have the shield. We have the power; that’s the thing. Everyone dies one day or another, anyway. The question is: Where do they go, or where do you go? You are under the protective shield of the Master. If you listen to everything that is moral and good, and kind and compassionate, then you will be safe in the high Heaven. Most people are unaware of the consequences because they have been misled by some so-called religious leaders. But even they will also be helped by the Master power of the present time. And they will be also elevated in some kind of Heaven.

So the real ‘baddies’ have to go to hell. That’s it. But it’s not a question about dying or not. It’s a question of whether they can be liberated. So the people of the world have been helped spiritually; their souls are liberated, because it’s not all their fault. It’s not all their fault that they eat meat. It’s not their fault that they don’t understand the Bible or the teaching of the Buddhas, because no one really expounded them really correctly.

So the ones who have been initiated, they are protected for sure, if they follow of course. If they break it, then they also have to bear the consequences. And the other people, the people who have not done anything wrong, who just follow the masses and are really ignorant, also have been helped; their souls will be helped.

Q: Almost all agree that climate change is happening, but some people still don’t believe that it’s caused by humans.

M: Well, it’s caused by humans most of the time. Everyone knows it by now.

Q: Some people still say that they’re not sure it’s caused by humans.

M: What else? What else is it that causes the carbon dioxide from the cars? You think the aliens are driving our cars and the aliens eat meat?

Q: Master, another question is: If You had a message for the world, what would it be?

That I love them very much. Because I know it’s not their fault, whatever they do. It’s just the veil of ignorance that has been cast upon them and makes them oblivious to the Truth. They have also been misled by circumstances, and by people who do not understand the doctrine of the Master. So, that’s all I can say to them: I love them very much. I feel more sorry for them than blaming.

Just Do Our Best to Help People Become Vegetarian

Q: I showed one of my friends the NASA climate ad, and he seemed to be convinced with it, and then I said, “Well, are you going to go veggie?” And he said, “Maybe in a few years time.” So with those kinds of people, how do you convince them more; how do you make them take action?

M: I don’t convince anyone. I don’t know how. I’ve done this all these years and not too many people are vegetarian. It helps some, but it’s not as much as I want. Even if I go around from door to door and stick the NASA flyer on everyone’s house, I don’t know how convinced they will be because human habits are very difficult to change and also because of reverse psychology. Sometimes you tell them to do it, and they don’t, just because they want to go against what you say. It’s the human reverse psychology.

Humans have been like that since time immemorial. It’s difficult. It’s not just about being vegetarian; it’s about many other things. People love me everywhere; it’s just when you tell them to be vegetarian, they hesitate. Because let’s face it, also it’s difficult for people to know how to eat vegetarian. It’s not all that popular, like all over the world vegetarian is a big trend. So the meat eaters don’t know how to cook a vegetarian meal. For the Chinese and the Aulacese (Vietnamese) it’s easier because we cook tasty meals with tofu and so on, or chop suey. But the meat eaters just put the whole chunk of beef in the oven, and that’s all they know.

It’s difficult; even if they want to, they just don‘t know how. That’s why we have to teach them how to cook vegetarian on TV, but even that is difficult. When I was in Germany, I invited my neighbors every week to vegetarianism, but that didn’t turn them into vegetarians. They loved the food I cooked, and then I gave them recipes and so on, but that didn’t make them vegetarian.

Q: So when a person chooses to become a vegetarian, is it because of fate or destiny, or else they will come back to not being a vegetarian?

M: It’s because the person has a strong will and wants to do something good that he or she knows is good. Only that person will change. The person who is weak, even knowing it’s good, he won’t do it! God gives the free will for people to change from bad to good and vice versa - whatever they choose to do. That’s the problem, the free will of humans, and there’s the ego to boost.

The thing is, if we have the planet, we have the planet. If we don’t, we don’t. I wish really that we do have the planet, that we continue to live, and that the children can grow up in a better environment. But you see, it’s not all up to our group. It’s not even up to Heaven. It’s up to humanity to decide what they want and which direction to turn. It’s just up to them to change. And with all the power of the leaders, they should do something faster than this. So, we just pray for the best. That’s that, okay? If half the population of the planet becomes vegetarian, that would be already fantastic news.

Climate change doesn’t mean only hot. It means the change of the climate around the world, and a lot of frequent disasters, with hot places becoming cold and cold places becoming hot. And then it becomes kind of chaotic, and it’s a lot of suffering for the people later on, with many countries and many cities that will be under the water, and so on. And more storms, like more typhoons, a lot before it really ends. It doesn’t just end like, “Okay, now it’s going to end,” and finito! It’s not like that.

It will be agonizing for a while, and a lot of people will suffer and they would not even understand why. So we contact people, like politicians and newspapers. Just write them letters or send them flyers; just do whatever we can to save the world. Each one of us is responsible; we do something as we can.

Q: The data from the NASA climate reports indicate that the polar ice cap will be gone by 2012. This coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar; is this like a coincidence or something else?

M: Maybe it’s not coincidence. Some people do see things. Some people do see things in the future, but people still can’t change. The thing is, would they like to change? Would they be strong enough to change? I try everywhere I go, of course, but it’s not that easy. Our program and leaflets and the lectures, they change many people, millions of people, but that is not enough.

Forbidding Meat Eating As a Harmful Substance

Q: I wanted to ask, if You have a message for the leaders of the world, what would You say to them?

M: I would say to them to use their mighty power to change the diet of the planet. Adopt immediately, new technology and sustainable energy, and set an example themselves by becoming a vegetarian or vegan. Change their diet; use their mighty power. Use their example to set a new diet for the planet: the vegetarian diet.

They first have to be vegetarian and then they can use their power truly. Like the way they forbid smoking, they could do that by forbidding meat as well, by citing all the harm that meat would do to humans and the planet. They can do that, just like forbidding smoking. Forbid meat eating, just like forbidding the smoking of cigarettes and drugs. That’s also another kind of harmful drug.

Q: Also, did other civilizations in the universe have the same problem?

They did. Wherever there are people and planets, these things can always happen. Once the technology has developed to a certain height, the side effects will follow. If people are not spiritually stable or developed, then the technological development will outweigh the spiritual balance, and they will destroy their planet.

Q: Dear Master, we want to take this opportunity to thank You for graciously accepting to have this session on the environment. For all the work and encouragement You’ve given us, we want to thank You. We love You very much. Thank You.

M: I love you too, guys. (Applause) Heaven loves you, all the animals love you, and I love you.

Audience: We love You! (Applause)

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