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編號：626
日期：1998.06.07
地點：美國洛杉磯小中心
性質：共修
用語：英文
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清海無上師以英文講於美國洛杉磯1998.6.7(DVD626) |
徒弟:我有一個問題是關於後面那位先生所談到的精神疾病，我常思索這件事，我的祖母曾住精神病院治療，她會聽到聲音，還有好幾年都用頭撞牆壁，最後必須接受前腦業切除手術，因此我花很多時間想知道她是怎麼了?她已經去世了，因此我對她已不感興趣。不過在您的樣本書中提到我們不應該幫助別人。聽說她住在發生革命戰爭的戰場，她有可能是被鬼附身。有人告訴我如果我們的能量中心打開了，低等的振動力就會進來。
我想問的是我們可以做什麼來幫助那些人，或是讓他們處理自己的業障?
第二個問題是可否請您開示為什麼會這樣?因為有時候我們會發現經神有問題的人，他們很努力想克服這種情況，不過我們又無法忍受和他們一起，可是當我們離開他們我又會很同情他們。您可否給我們一些建議，如果遇到這些人怎麼辦?
像那位先生好像常遇到這樣的問題，我們怎麼處理這種情況?是不去幫助他們?或是怎麼幫助他暪們?或是袖手旁觀讓他們自己處理業障，
師父:我有說不應該幫助別人嗎?
徒弟:我讀到的好像是……
師父:如果不需要幫助別人，那我在這裡幹嘛?
徒弟:我想我讀到的是我們不應該去醫治別人的病。
師父:靈力治病是不一樣的，跟解救別人的痛苦是不一樣。靈力治病是指用神通影響別人的意識，這是不一樣的。
徒弟:可以請您開示一下如何幫助那些精神極度異常的人?
師父:時間到了他們自然會幫助自己。你能幫多少就幫多少，就你所知的幫他們。我們應該隨時幫助那些需要我們幫忙的人，不論是在心理上或精神上、在物質上或靈修上都應該幫助他人，不過能接受多少就要看他們自己了。不要忘了即使他們是瘋子，他們還是上帝。他們扮演愚痴，他們喜歡這個角色，時間到了，他們自己會清醒。你能幫多少就幫多少，這是為你自己好，不然你就沒有慈悲心了，那樣對你不好，瞭解嗎?你可以為他們祈禱，和他們聊聊天，握他們的手，給他們東西吃，你可以做任何你能力所及之事，使你自己感覺所做的事是對的，這才重要。重要的是你自己，不是他們，真的!他們扮演愚痴來喚起你的慈悲心，他們選擇當窮人，你才可以施捨。他們選擇當瘋子，所以你為自己的清醒感謝上帝。每件事必定擁有相對的比較，你才會知道你有多好、有多幸福。重要的是你自己，對每個人來說，他自己是最重要的，記得這一點。你做的任何事情都是為你自己，在宇宙中，沒人真正需要你的任何東西，事實是這樣。不過那時候，他們並不了解這點，當他們來向你尋求援助時，他們真的認為需要你的幫助，你也認為你需要幫助他們，這完全沒問題。就是如此而已。所以隨時隨地的盡量幫助他人，應該這樣做。不過不要評論，不要認為他們真的瘋癲，真的很窮，真的需要你。他們看起來好像是，不過在永恆世界裡並不是如此。明白了?(眾人鼓掌)
所以開悟的人，幫忙卻好像沒幫一樣，瞭解他人、同情他人，但是不陷入他們的痛苦中，很中庸。因為如果我們和快淹死的人一起沉下去了，根本無法幫助他們。了解我的意思嗎?我們必須非常冷靜，非常清楚才行。
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What one can do to help someone, who’s deeply, poychologically troubled?
Spoken by Supreme Master Ching Hai,
Los Angels, USA, june 7, 1998
(Originally in English) DVD #624
disciple:I had a question that related to something the gentleman back there brought up, which deals with the nature of psychological illnesses. And I’ve thought a lot about it. My grandmother was institutionalized, and heard voices, and spent years banging her head against the wall, and was finally given a frontal lobotomy. So I spent a lot of time trying to understand what happened to her. And she’s dead now, so I’m not interested for her. But just, your booklet says we shouldn’t help people. I was told that she lived on a revolutionary war battle field. Somebody said that maybe she was haunted by the ghosts. Other people told me that sometimes you can have covers to your chaktras that get blown off and lower vibrational frequencies come in.
But I guess one question is, is there anything we can do to help these people, or do we just leave them to their own karma?
And the second question is, can you elaborate a little bit on what goes on, because sometimes you find people who have psychological problems. They try and they try, and they try to get past these, but you can’t stand being around them. But when you are away from them, you have a lot of compassion for them. How would you suggest when we run into people like that, like this gentleman seems to run into them all the time? How do we handle situations like that and not help them? How can we help them? Just by being who we are, and leave them to their own karma?
Master:Did I say you should not help people?
disciple: Well, it’s sort of the way I read it…
Master:You read it wrong. What am I doing here if we should not help people?
Disciple: I guess the way I read it is that you should’t go out and try to heal people.
Master: Oh, spiritual healing is different. I’m talking about spiritual healing, using your magical power to tamper with people’s consciousness. It’s different.
Disciple:Can you address a little bit about what one can do to help someone, who’s deeply, poychologically troubled?
Master: They will help themselves, in time. You help the best you can. The best you know how. We always have to help people if they need you. Doesn’t matter psychological, mental, material, spiritual, we always have to help people. But the amount of acceptance is up to them. Don’t forget, even if they are crazy, they are God. They play fool. They like that. They wake up in time. But you help as much as you can, for your own benefit. Otherwise, you don’t have compassion. It’s no good for you, see? You pray to them, you talk to them, you hold their hands, you bring them food. You do whatever is in your power to make you feel that you’re doing the right thing. That’s important. OK? It’s “you” who are important, not them. Really! They are playing fools to evoke your compassion. Yeah, they choose to be poor, so you can be generous. Hmm? They choose to be crazy, so you thank God that you are awakened. Everything has to have a contrast so that you recognize how good you are, how blessed you are, OK? It’s “you” who are important. Everyone is important to him or herself. Remember that. Whatever you do is for yourself. Nobody in the universe needs you anything. Truly speaking. But at that time, they don’t understand that. When they come to call you for help, they really also think they need you. And you also really think you need to help them. And that’s perfectly all right. That’s the way it is .OK? So do what you can, anytime, anywhere to help people. That’s a must, to evolve. OK? But don’t judge, don’t think they’re really nuts, they’re really poor, they really need you. They do seem that way, but in eternity, they are not. OK? ALL right.
That’s why, that why an enlightened person helps, but not helping. Understand people, sympathize with people, but don’t sink into their sorrow. Very balanced. Because if we drown together with the person who’s drowning, we can’t help them, either. See what I mean? Yes! We have to be very cool. Very cool. Very clear.
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Spoken by Supreme Master Ching Hai, 
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清海無上師以英文講於荷蘭阿姆斯特丹
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